Details on the Shane Kelly murder

FYI

http://www.bsmphilly.com/star-home-news/4652-in-court-details-emerge-in-fishtown-slaying.html

I did a quick piece on my blog here that includes the Facebook post of the kid who said McManus was just drunk and normally would stab someone before shooting them:

http://phillylawblog.wordpress.com/2012/02/15/details-emerge-in-shane-kelly-case/

A. Jordan Rushie
Attorney and Counselor at Law
2424 East York Street, Suite 316
Philadelphia, PA 19125 215.385.LAW1 (5291)
Blog: www.phillylawblog.com
Website: www.fishtownlaw.com

codergrrl's picture

Still sickening.

"Je Suis Prest"

Lauraska's picture

That Bernatovich guy sounds like a real piece of work, too. No Snitching? Guess it ain't just for west of Frankford after all, is it.

codergrrl's picture

As I have had to defend on another board, when they assumed we were of the ilk of "no snitching"...do not, I repeat, DO NOT think that because one person who came from this cancer of a house, a peer and fellow party boy of the shooter, called the guy a "snitch" that its reason to believe that it, as you say "ain't just for west of Frankford after all". You could not be more incorrect, and you need to know what and who you are talking about before you assume it is. Come on over, and take a ride down the 700 block of Belgrade. Its one of the nicest blocks in the area.
It was one house full of idiots that we tried our best to do something about. DO NOT make such sweeping aspersions about my neighbors and I. Thank you. (BTW the drink offer still stands.)

"Je Suis Prest"

Jordan's picture

I did a quick piece on Philly Law Blog, with a screen shot of the kid who said Ryan McManus was just really drunk, and he's the type of kid who would stab you before he shot you, so he's not really all that bad:

http://phillylawblog.wordpress.com/2012/02/15/details-emerge-in-shane-kelly-case/

A. Jordan Rushie
Attorney and Counselor at Law
2424 East York Street, Suite 316
Philadelphia, PA 19125 215.385.LAW1 (5291)
Blog: www.phillylawblog.com
Website: www.fishtownlaw.com

Lauraska's picture

Coder, I really didn't mean to say that No Snitching is something that exists in every single house in Fishtown. I merely meant that it can, and does, exist in communities other than those of color in other areas of the city. In those neighborhoods, there are people who come forward, too. Sorry if it seemed as if I was saying that all of you supported what that Bernatovich guy was saying.

codergrrl's picture

I understand, Lovey.
I just take it personally because it is literally feet from my home, and I know we're all good folks over here.
Thanks.

"Je Suis Prest"

AM's picture

Just my observations - the women in this community care too much to buy into the whole "no snitching" mentality; the men's egos would never allow them to be intimidated by these little wanna be thugs and the criminals themselves have no loyalty to anyone even their so-called friends. The only time you will actually find the "no snitching" thing around here is within families and even that has it limits when their backs are against the wall. There are always exceptions to this rule but this is what I have witnessed over the years.

"Laugh and the world laughs with you, cry and you cry alone . . . "

bozoloper's picture

i think the no snitching is a little broader than that. fear of being shot execution style while you're tending the register at your corner store has a way of keeping you quiet.

there's a fool on every corner when you're trying to get home.

Pure_Fishtown's picture

AM, I believe the no snitching is a more prevalent in Fishtown than you think. Thank God, it isn't as bad as other neighborhoods.

FREE Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

AM's picture

Could be, as my observations are limited. However, a lot of things around the neighborhood are reported and because nothing is done about it, people assume no one "snitched." i.e. - the drug houses that are reported for years yet are still in operation.

"Laugh and the world laughs with you, cry and you cry alone . . . "

george's picture

I experienced it firsthand on one occassion when I learned of a heroin dealing connection between a problem house and a nearby bar. Basically, I was told (by more than one person) not to make waves because they were 'connected' through various family relationships, including in the police department. Admittedly, I was spooked by that and let it go.

Not going to go into details on the who and where since it was years ago and I'm no longer there, but it happened.

cme2niteudig's picture

Thank you Coder for setting it straight, I came home that night and ran outside when I heard the shots and saw the second guy run by my window chasing the McManus kid. I even said to myself “Wow this guy got balls” when he was walking toward McManus as he pointed the gun at the guy and that’s when I came out to give a hand at that point the kid ran into the 713 house and then the Highway Division showed up and then the 26th. Lucky I knew one of the highway patrol officers from back in the day when I use to live in Chinatown and told him to check the back of the house, because sometime they like to hide on other people rooftop, I should know my house was tag two summers ago when they had a big party and decided to party on the roofs of four houses plus mine. Can’t wait to see how this summer going to look like, now that they know that everyone is watching.

When the axe came into the forest, many of the trees said " At least the handle is one of us "

Pure_Fishtown's picture

cme2nite, something I learned years ago when we lived on Gordon -- if one of those fools falls from the roof of your home (even without your permission); you can be sued. One year, we had more foot traffic on the roofs as we did on the pavement. The kids would use the empty house next to the lot to climb onto the roof and then had the nerve to party and do whatever up there; they were even leaning on the flashing to look down into the bedrooms. We learned that thanks to someone's dirty hands.

FREE Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

jessv's picture

I don't think I ever knew that a passerby - let alone one with a record - did their est to help. No snitching was big in our corner of the area. If you called the cops, you'd end up with SNITCH spray painted on your door. If you walked past certain individuals while on your cell phone, they'd remind you what happens to snitches. I don't think it's a neighborhood problem. I think it's a city, and maybe, youth problem. We're just rich with youths.

Kenzo's picture

Why is it all the "don't snitch" folks around here have the IQ of a peanut?

On the advice of someone who probably queened-out, this signature has been deleted.

th's picture

george wrote:
I experienced it firsthand on one occassion when I learned of a heroin dealing connection between a problem house and a nearby bar. Basically, I was told (by more than one person) not to make waves because they were 'connected' through various family relationships, including in the police department. Admittedly, I was spooked by that and let it go.

Good post. I think this really describes what a lot of people feel. It's the general sense of unease about not knowing what exactly is going on, who's involved, how far up or out it goes, that makes it very easy to just let it go.

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doyne29's picture

cme2niteudig - Please check your private messages. Thanks!