When will Grimes be blamed?

Earlier today the Ohio school shooters Facebook page was released and he recommended Vanessa by Grimes with a link to a youtube video. I wonder when Grimes will be blamed for causing the shooting. Probably never. Cause its not heavy metal. If he had ANYTHING on that page that was the least bit heavy, you know darn well it would be front page news and be blamed.

speedo's picture

Sign of the times.

codergrrl's picture

Nah, they'll blame video games.

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KingDingAling's picture

Is Marilyn Manson still alive? He's always a good target.

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Atomic Larry's picture

...its just like old times!

stein's picture

who is grimes?

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sdm's picture

Frank Grimes?

Neatly chiseled, well groomed, drop dead handsome face.

rinobio's picture

I think ( via google ) this would grimes? ( not really sure but thats what google seemed to believe ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43Vs8WXz0TE

Kat's picture

Is Grimes in Slipknot?

lofive's picture

sdm wrote:
Frank Grimes?

Love the Simpson reference.

djsperling's picture

Homer's only enemy. Classic Episode!

sdm's picture

Gotta love good ole' Grimey.

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stillLife's picture

Or they will blame his abusive father, who was also recently incarcerated for assaulting a police officer and resisting arrest. And had a history of spousal/girlfriend abuse.

ronchito's picture

Please let "Frank Grimes" be the answer the Simpsoooonnnns Questiooonnnnn @ Quizzo tomorrow.

kwhln215's picture

How about blaming the kids who actually tortured the kid and the Admin who didnt do anything about it . How many times is this gonna happen before they really do something

stillLife's picture

I haven't seen anything in the news that proves this kid was really being bullied. I'm not saying he wasn't, I'm saying I haven't seen anything other than one quote, from one kid, who said he thought he was being bullied. I did read, that one of the kids that were murdered had just started dating the shooters ex-girlfriend. What is documented, are the multiple accounts of spousal abuse perpetrated by his father and his parent's recent divorce, which point to a pretty terrible home life.

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Regardless of that though, kwhln215, I agree with you. When bullies are caught, there need to be stricter punishments to protect the children. And on top of that, teachers need to be better trained to identify when a child may be being bullied. I think all too often teachers just attribute acts of bullying to kids being kids, without stepping in the shoes of the bullied to understand what they may be feeling inside.

rinobio's picture

How about holding the kid,his parents,the school. any kid that bullied him and that kids parents responsible - There aren't easy answers I wish that people would accept there probably isn't ONE factor its not that simple. unfortunately.

simmer's picture

If he was a heavy metal fan there would totally be an easy answer. How many times has the music been blamed in the past as an easy answer to violence, anti social behavior? Now that they can't blame it on that the so called expert won't be able to figure it out.

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simmer wrote:
If he was a heavy metal fan there would totally be an easy answer. How many times has the music been blamed in the past as an easy answer to violence, anti social behavior? Now that they can't blame it on that the so called expert won't be able to figure it out.

Oh, I think the "so called experts" are aware of other root causes. I don't think heavy metal music is universally perceived in the negative light that you keep representing it in. The thought that its this evil dark thing that is totally misunderstood is kinda passe.

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codergrrl wrote:
simmer wrote:
If he was a heavy metal fan there would totally be an easy answer. How many times has the music been blamed in the past as an easy answer to violence, anti social behavior? Now that they can't blame it on that the so called expert won't be able to figure it out.

Oh, I think the "so called experts" are aware of other root causes. I don't think heavy metal music is universally perceived in the negative light that you keep representing it in. The thought that its this evil dark thing that is totally misunderstood is kinda passe.

the last "blame the metal band" incident i can really think of is manson and columbine, and that didn't even really stick.

edit: there was the whole finnish black metal thing with the burning churches, but in all honesty some of those bands were promoting church burning. you can't really get too upset about them being blamed as part of it.

there's a fool on every corner when you're trying to get home.

sdm's picture

Who still blames metal for anything? What is this, 1982?

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simmer's picture

Yep, 1982. This was after about 4 minutes of searches.
The church burnings were in Norway. From Norwegian black metal bands that were devil worshipers. Its not my cup of tea. One of the biggest groups in Norway's lead singer was to blame for I think almost all of them. He viewed it as his own personal crusade to burn churches in and around Oslo. I think he is a devil worshiper first and a musician about a hundred and first. He has been interviewed on many occasions and does not seem very bright but rather just a criminal.

th's picture

I'm not even sure people blame rap music for stuff anymore, do they?

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simmer wrote:
Yep, 1982. This was after about 4 minutes of searches.
The church burnings were in Norway. From Norwegian black metal bands that were devil worshipers. Its not my cup of tea. One of the biggest groups in Norway's lead singer was to blame for I think almost all of them. He viewed it as his own personal crusade to burn churches in and around Oslo. I think he is a devil worshiper first and a musician about a hundred and first. He has been interviewed on many occasions and does not seem very bright but rather just a criminal.

we watched a documentary on them. the lead singer was in jail while being interviewed. you're right; he didn't seem very bright. the documentary was a bore, too. i had hoped for it to be a little more riveting.

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meredith wrote:

we watched a documentary on them. the lead singer was in jail while being interviewed. you're right; he didn't seem very bright. the documentary was a bore, too. i had hoped for it to be a little more riveting.

i was enthralled.

there's a fool on every corner when you're trying to get home.

simmer's picture

Rap music, as far as I know, has never been accused. Certainly not to the level of metal. I have heard of people trying to ban rap IE 2 live Crew, NWA and body count (although they were actually more metal). But no rap artist has ever been on trial for their lyrics "causing" someone to do something. Its only ever been metal.
If you are referring to the Headbangers Journey documentary, its not that great cause they don't spend enough time with him. That doc almost gave what he did credence cause of the little time they spent on him. Black metal, to me, is so silly anyway. I was in Norway about 2 years ago and I went to a few record stores to check out the black metal. Alice Cooper said it best. Its all so much like Spinal Tap to the point that its silly. But the names of the bands and songs are good for a laugh.

Lauraska's picture

This is ridiculous.

th's picture

Lauraska wrote:
This is ridiculous.

:D

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th's picture

But then again, Simmer is right - metal heads are one of the most persecuted groups in this country. Just behind gun owners and Christians.

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austen's picture

And apparently women who deign to take birth control precautions.

th's picture

austen wrote:
And apparently women who deign to take birth control precautions.

This whole national conversation has been blowing my mind.

Did you hear the Rush quotes from the last few days? He wants every woman who gets birth control through their insurance provider to post videos of them having sex so he can watch. He is a revolting human being.

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th wrote:
austen wrote:
And apparently women who deign to take birth control precautions.

This whole national conversation has been blowing my mind.

Did you hear the Rush quotes from the last few days? He wants every woman who gets birth control through their insurance provider to post videos of them having sex so he can watch. He is a revolting human being.

or an aspiring porn tycoon

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Lauraska's picture

I would like to ask Rush what his opinion is on allowing health insurance companies to pay for Viagra, because they all do. Better yet, I'd like him to tell me what we should do about insurance companies that cover any prescriptions that the patient ends up abusing. He'd know all about that.

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th wrote:
austen wrote:
And apparently women who deign to take birth control precautions.

This whole national conversation has been blowing my mind.

Did you hear the Rush quotes from the last few days? He wants every woman who gets birth control through their insurance provider to post videos of them having sex so he can watch. He is a revolting human being.

I could not believe my ears. It blows my mind how afraid of ladyparts some folks can be.

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Lauraska wrote:
Better yet, I'd like him to tell me what we should do about insurance companies that cover any prescriptions that the patient ends up abusing. He'd know all about that.

This is exactly what I was thinking too. Rush is a despicable human being.

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th's picture

It is just weird. Do conservatives really not enjoy sex? Or do they just not want women to enjoy sex?

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th's picture

Lauraska wrote:
I would like to ask Rush what his opinion is on allowing health insurance companies to pay for Viagra, because they all do. Better yet, I'd like him to tell me what we should do about insurance companies that cover any prescriptions that the patient ends up abusing. He'd know all about that.

Yea, we were talking about the viagra issue last night (not for me of course). I assume most viagra is taken for recreational purposes, not fertility reasons.

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th wrote:
It is just weird. Do conservatives really not enjoy sex? Or do they just not want women to enjoy sex?

Me thinks they doth protest too much.
And the biggest mouths usually get caught with their pants down in some fashion eventually...they're so brainwashed, they don't want to enjoy it...its DIRTY! So they do it anyway, in various forms, and hide it, and then tell you not to do it. Its really some kind of psychological damage, if you ask me.

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simmer wrote:
Black metal, to me, is so silly anyway. I was in Norway about 2 years ago and I went to a few record stores to check out the black metal. Alice Cooper said it best. Its all so much like Spinal Tap to the point that its silly. But the names of the bands and songs are good for a laugh.

Why would you listen to metal but not black metal? Almost all metal is novelty anyway, at least on some level. I mean, if you're going to get ridiculous, you might as well really get ridiculous. If the band's logo is spelled out in bones and barely legible, it's usually a good sign.

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simmer's picture

Black metal just isn't for me. Not a fan of the vocals more than anything else. And the beats just don't do it for me either. I think that the talent level isn there either. Its more for schlock than anything else. A lot of metal is a dog and pony show, I know that and some of that is what attracts me in the first place but Black metal is just soooo over the top that it seems silly to me.

By the way, I think it has now become apparent to most everyone that Rush Limbaugh hates women. Many have said that in the past but now it is obvious that the guy is a woman hater. Probably cause he is a disgusting fat slob and no woman wanted him before he got money. Course that probably makes him hate women even more. He has become obsolete anyway. He is probably loving the publicity. Would be better if we all simply ignored him.