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A Dollar Tree is opening in the shopping center near Thriftway. It is a gulity pleasure of mine and i am proud of it.

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Boo and double boo.

Leo's picture

Dollar Tree AND Family Dollar in the same shopping center? We are truly blessed.

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jbette01 wrote:
Boo and double boo.

Why this response? Yes it would be nice if everyone who lived in this neighborhood was doing well enough to not need a dollar store nearby but unfortunately that's not true. At this time in my life I have to watch every penny. There are some things that I can get at a dollar store that saves me money. And having one in the neighborhood will also save me the busfare I have to spend if I want to go to another store. Someday things won't be so tight but until then I am happy for any help I can get.

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Not trendy enough i guess ? I guess if it was over hyped coffee house it would yay

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Dollar stores thrive on false economy.

You think you're saving on the price, but you're often getting less bang for your buck (in terms of price per quantity of item) than you would at another store. Value should be more important than price.

You go to a dollar store and get a pack of 50 tissues for a dollar. Or, you to go Thriftway and pay $3.00 for 500. Which is a better value?

I mean, I guess if you have only a dollar, then you really don't have a choice. But that's not usually the case, I imagine. I'd bet that dollar for dollar, you'd get a better deal at Thiftway or Save a Lot than at any dollar store.

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Leo wrote:
I mean, I guess if you have only a dollar, then you really don't have a choice. But that's not usually the case, I imagine. I'd bet that dollar for dollar, you'd get a better deal at Thiftway or Save a Lot than at any dollar store.

For a lot of people it is the case where they might have just a dollar to spend on tissues. I think Dan posted something awhile ago about the high cost of poverty. For some people, and I admit there are times when I am one of them, that they have to think about every penny they spend. I am very good at stretching a penny. There are times it is better to go to thriftway and sometimes it's better at the dollar store. I wouldn't do all my shopping at a dollar store but they have their place. I believe that you mean well so I have to ask, are you really that naive to believe that everyone is in the same situation as you?

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There are a few assumptions implicit in your response, but I invited it with my post, so it's only fair.

I'm a penny pincher myself. I always look for the best value, which I've rarely found to be at dollar stores. YMMV.

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dmandy wrote:
jbette01 wrote:
Boo and double boo.

Why this response? Yes it would be nice if everyone who lived in this neighborhood was doing well enough to not need a dollar store nearby but unfortunately that's not true. At this time in my life I have to watch every penny. There are some things that I can get at a dollar store that saves me money. And having one in the neighborhood will also save me the busfare I have to spend if I want to go to another store. Someday things won't be so tight but until then I am happy for any help I can get.

I shop at dollar stores too. I certainly can understand their convenience and value.

However, I think there are plenty of options currently within the neighborhood. Two stores within the Thirftway shopping center, the store on Lehigh, Deals, the Family Dollar opening at the Superfresh, etc.

Moreover, I would guess that dollar stores in strip malls typically do not attract additional renters to fill vacancies. The shopping center has just lost two anchors recently.

It is similar to the coffeeshops, at some point you reach saturation.

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I like the dollar store, most varieties. But it's very very true that they abuse people that are in financial troubles.

I buy a paper and coupon and I get so much for free if not super close to free from double coupons and cvs. My mom does advertising and taught me how to coupon. At first my fiancé was embarrassed and didn't get my "obsession." Once he saw our stockpile, he begged to help.

Today at cvs we got two boxes of cheerios (regular size) 6 bumble bee chunk white tuna cans, 4 single snicker egg candies, three campbells chix noodle & two tomato, a bounce fabric bar (apparently it lasts two months) and a Sunday paper for $12.38. $2 of that was the paper. That doesn't happen at the dollar stores.

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jbette01 wrote:
dmandy wrote:
jbette01 wrote:
Boo and double boo.

Why this response? Yes it would be nice if everyone who lived in this neighborhood was doing well enough to not need a dollar store nearby but unfortunately that's not true. At this time in my life I have to watch every penny. There are some things that I can get at a dollar store that saves me money. And having one in the neighborhood will also save me the busfare I have to spend if I want to go to another store. Someday things won't be so tight but until then I am happy for any help I can get.

I shop at dollar stores too. I certainly can understand their convenience and value.

However, I think there are plenty of options currently within the neighborhood. Two stores within the Thirftway shopping center, the store on Lehigh, Deals, the Family Dollar opening at the Superfresh, etc.

Moreover, I would guess that dollar stores in strip malls typically do not attract additional renters to fill vacancies. The shopping center has just lost two anchors recently.

It is similar to the coffeeshops, at some point you reach saturation.

Yes it can reach a saturation point. There are other options but most of them I would have to take a bus to reach them which means at least $3 and there are others who are in the same situation. Hopefully someday there won't be as great a need for places like dollar store but right now there is one. I would like to have a greater selection of shops in the neighborhood and maybe someday we will get that.

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Ugh...couponing such as is done on that ridiculous TV show strikes me as a hobby for suburban housewives. All they buy is junk food and cleaning products. Yay...100 bottles of Hi-C fruit punch and 200 snack packs of doritos for 10 cents! Gross. Nobody needs a stockpile. Nobody.

We have enough dollar stores. And before people get all upset, I think we're good in the coffeeshop department too.

Isn't there already a dollar store in the Thriftway shopping center?

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Right next to Thriftway. But it's less "dollar" store and more "tiny department store with cheaply made wares".

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Lauraska, speak for yourself. I love my stockpile. Then again I do not have a stock pile as you see on TLC and to assume that every stock pile is the same is just absurd. I've been couponing since I was old enough to shop. We don't run out of razors, deodorant, shampoo, cereal, toilet paper, toothbrushes, toothpaste and many, many other things.

All of this is stuff that we get for near free and will always need and love to give to friends and overnight guests.

Have fun spending $8 on razor refills and I will have fun continuing to pick up a few when I get them for near free if not free. :)

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Lauraska wrote:
Ugh...couponing such as is done on that ridiculous TV show strikes me as a hobby for suburban housewives. All they buy is junk food and cleaning products. Yay...100 bottles of Hi-C fruit punch and 200 snack packs of doritos for 10 cents! Gross. Nobody needs a stockpile. Nobody.

We have enough dollar stores. And before people get all upset, I think we're good in the coffeeshop department too.

Isn't there already a dollar store in the Thriftway shopping center?

there was a dollar store but it closed. Family dollar is more of a general store. I also agree that we have enough coffeeshops, especially since they don't stay open very late. What is it with them all closing 7-8 o'clock? What I would really like is a cafe where I could get something to eat or just a cup of coffee at 9 pm. Well a girl can dream.

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Hey, I love a bargain as much as the next girl. I use coupons when they are for things that I would normally buy or for which I have an immediate need. But I also know that the detergents in shampoo, laundry detergent, and dish washer detergents break down over time. So stockpiling them actually wastes money in the long run, unless you are doing 100 loads of laundry a day or taking 20 showers. Maybe you are. And if that's the case, rock on with that couponing.

I'm also assuming that, unlike the idiotic TLC show, you do not go looking for coupons in dumpsters. That's icky.

I shop weekly because we eat a lot of fresh produce that I have to re-up regularly. My way of saving money is to use an iPhone app that allows me to enter prices of items at competing stores to compare the per unit prices (where the true savings are). We use Costco for some of our proteins, some produce that we use in bulk (we have an infant...sweet potatoes go fast around here), and most pantry/toiletry items. BUT sometimes my app tells me that the sale on TP at Target makes it cheaper than our usual brand at Costco. I'll go to two or three stores in a weekend to get the best prices on things we use. The one thing I WON'T do is sacrifice quality for a good sale. For example, we eat greek yogurt daily. I'm not going to buy those 10 for $8 sugar-laden yogurts instead of the greek yogurt just because I have a coupon. That's just our personal preference.

Now, we happen to be lucky enough to be able to afford some of the indulgences at the grocery store and I totally acknowledge that some folks have to economize much more than we do. But, we also make small sacrifices in order to have better quality food. Small ones like not eating out very often and not taking real vacations. It's all a matter of priorities and everyone's priorities are different.

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I like a bargin as much as the next person and will use coupons on things I normally use. I just don't understand the stockpiling. Most of the things I see on the show are not things I would stockpile. Chocolate would be my choice, good coffee, cookies, wonderful bacon, wine, you know, the necessities. don't know how long they would last, as in not being used, so I would have to go out and buy more

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I'm pretty sure that we will use the things that we bought before they go bad. Not to mention the battered women's shelter office couldn't thank Joe enough for the donation box that he brought them. :)

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Not to mention, we are always giving "free bags" to our friends and family. I love my little hobby. It saves me money and it helps others. :)

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Apparently, some would prefer the stores in the mall stay empty( unless some hi priced specialty shop opens to satisfy their blown up ego) and it become another wasteland. Who cares what the store is. It brings local revenue to the owners and tax dollars to the city. If no one shops there then they too will close. Thats how the world works. You open a business and hope it works. If some of you are TOO good to shop at a dollar store so be it. But don't tell the rest of us that a dollar store doesn't belong in the mall. If I didn't know better I'd say it sounds almost like your saying "WE DONT WANT THIER KIND"around here.

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Family dollar carries name brand products, however, I don't often find the prices to be significantly different. I used to cut coupons, but find now, that I never buy a Sunday paper anymore, that there are rarely coupons for things I actually use. I have such a regulated inventory, such little space for overstocking, etc, that the store sales at Thriftway are good enough. I do take advantage of the sales there, for example, stock up on baking goods around Christmas when they practically give it away. I still haven't managed to get to the new store, but I've heard its overpriced. I hate the thought of wandering around trying to find all the stuff I need to find. (I'm feeding seven people)...Going to the Thriftway is pretty much a military operation. Seek, find, exit ASAP.

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dmandy wrote:
Lauraska wrote:
Ugh...couponing such as is done on that ridiculous TV show strikes me as a hobby for suburban housewives. All they buy is junk food and cleaning products. Yay...100 bottles of Hi-C fruit punch and 200 snack packs of doritos for 10 cents! Gross. Nobody needs a stockpile. Nobody.

We have enough dollar stores. And before people get all upset, I think we're good in the coffeeshop department too.

Isn't there already a dollar store in the Thriftway shopping center?

there was a dollar store but it closed. Family dollar is more of a general store. I also agree that we have enough coffeeshops, especially since they don't stay open very late. What is it with them all closing 7-8 o'clock? What I would really like is a cafe where I could get something to eat or just a cup of coffee at 9 pm. Well a girl can dream.

Rocket Cat closes at 9.

Ugh.

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ExUnit4 wrote:
Apparently, some would prefer the stores in the mall stay empty( unless some hi priced specialty shop opens to satisfy their blown up ego) and it become another wasteland. Who cares what the store is. It brings local revenue to the owners and tax dollars to the city. If no one shops there then they too will close. Thats how the world works. You open a business and hope it works. If some of you are TOO good to shop at a dollar store so be it. But don't tell the rest of us that a dollar store doesn't belong in the mall. If I didn't know better I'd say it sounds almost like your saying "WE DONT WANT THIER KIND"around here.

I used to live on Dollar Store Row (Chestnut). Yeah, Philadelphia has believed for a very long time that you can power a city of 1.5 million people off of Dollar Stores, check cashing, sneakers and gold-plated jewelry.

Dollar Row would see a store close once every 8 months and then another immigrant family tries to kick start a new one, which manages to pay the light bill for a while until it shuts. Valu-Plus I think has survived the longest because it sits next to the Arts dorm, a giant 15 story hulk full of kids eating ramen.

I wonder how this will pan out since the Port Richmond Wal-Mart is due to open next month.

BTW, Save-A-Lot is a grocery store, not a dollar store. Dollar stores that got more than packaged and canned food just have a small freezer section in the back. The two Save-A-Lots near us do have insanely low mark downs. So does Cousin's, but you have to be wise to avoid the stuff that's overmarked they use to make up for their specials.

Milk at Cousin's is higher right now than Wawa.

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ThatGirlWithTheFunkyGlasses wrote:
dmandy wrote:
Lauraska wrote:
Ugh...couponing such as is done on that ridiculous TV show strikes me as a hobby for suburban housewives. All they buy is junk food and cleaning products. Yay...100 bottles of Hi-C fruit punch and 200 snack packs of doritos for 10 cents! Gross. Nobody needs a stockpile. Nobody.

We have enough dollar stores. And before people get all upset, I think we're good in the coffeeshop department too.

Isn't there already a dollar store in the Thriftway shopping center?

there was a dollar store but it closed. Family dollar is more of a general store. I also agree that we have enough coffeeshops, especially since they don't stay open very late. What is it with them all closing 7-8 o'clock? What I would really like is a cafe where I could get something to eat or just a cup of coffee at 9 pm. Well a girl can dream.

Rocket Cat closes at 9.

Dunkin' is open late for those of us who aren't coffee snobs but are bummed when Leotah's or Coffee House II is closed. There's at least 3 in the hood, one by the 26th District, one on Aramingo and one at York-Dauphin station.

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ExUnit4 wrote:
Apparently, some would prefer the stores in the mall stay empty( unless some hi priced specialty shop opens to satisfy their blown up ego) and it become another wasteland. Who cares what the store is. It brings local revenue to the owners and tax dollars to the city. If no one shops there then they too will close. Thats how the world works. You open a business and hope it works. If some of you are TOO good to shop at a dollar store so be it. But don't tell the rest of us that a dollar store doesn't belong in the mall. If I didn't know better I'd say it sounds almost like your saying "WE DONT WANT THIER KIND"around here.

I would love to see the entire Thirftway Plaza full. However, in the 5 years I have lived within 400 ft of it, I have seen a lot come and go. Balancing retail opportunities within a community is an art, not a science. I do shop at the dollar store and thrift store there, so I am not sure I have the 'your kind' attitude you describe, although I guess some might.

I do find it interesting that the older widows on my street who are on a fixed income do all of their shopping at Thriftway, they dont really seem to be interested in the dollar stores there.

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ExUnit4 wrote:
Apparently, some would prefer the stores in the mall stay empty( unless some hi priced specialty shop opens to satisfy their blown up ego) and it become another wasteland. Who cares what the store is. It brings local revenue to the owners and tax dollars to the city. If no one shops there then they too will close. Thats how the world works. You open a business and hope it works. If some of you are TOO good to shop at a dollar store so be it. But don't tell the rest of us that a dollar store doesn't belong in the mall. If I didn't know better I'd say it sounds almost like your saying "WE DONT WANT THIER KIND"around here.

Slow your roll there, buddy. If you'd actually read the thread before starting your temper tantrum you would have noticed something about the two biggest critics of the incoming dollar store. Jbette has said, twice now, that she is a dollar store shopper. No snobbery there. And while I AM sort of a snob, I was under the mistaken impression that we already had a dollar store in that shopping center. The one we had probably closed due to lack of traffic, but if Family Dollar thinks it has the magic formula, then best of luck to them. So we both expressed concern about the store's sustainability and actual value, not its clientele. Thankyouverymuch.

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Deal$ is somehow clean, still, on the inside despite the crappiness at the intersection that it's at. The outside of it is a whole nuther story, though.

I hate the dollar stores that won't take cards. There's less of that now thanks to the bigger chains getting a bump up from taking a cut out of Wal-Mart, but there's still plenty of dingy dollar stores that look like Penn Treaty Market on the inside.

Using a cashback credit or debit card stretches the deal out a little further provided you plan ahead what you're gonna pick up rather than going to the store and aimlessly picking up stuff.

The biggest reason I visit them is batteries. Despite the myths, you'd be surprised that batteries are virtually the same store brand or name brand. Instead of paying over premium to snap some up at Rite-Aid or Lowe's I'll pick up AAA/AA for the remotes at a dollar store, buy more of them and pay sometimes nearly half of what they'd cost for full retail Energizer.

Yes I know--you're supposed to be "green" and get the rechargeable kind, but I've tried that off/on since the 80s with mixed results. I also did the rechargers for the regular batteries when those came out and they would never make a charger that would turn itself off... so I'd forget about it after putting it in the charger and come back to a bursted battery and a mess.

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Kenzo wrote:
Deal$ is somehow clean, still, on the inside despite the crappiness at the intersection that it's at. The outside of it is a whole nuther story, though.

I hate the dollar stores that won't take cards. There's less of that now thanks to the bigger chains getting a bump up from taking a cut out of Wal-Mart, but there's still plenty of dingy dollar stores that look like Penn Treaty Market on the inside.

Using a cashback credit or debit card stretches the deal out a little further provided you plan ahead what you're gonna pick up rather than going to the store and aimlessly picking up stuff.

The biggest reason I visit them is batteries. Despite the myths, you'd be surprised that batteries are virtually the same store brand or name brand. Instead of paying over premium to snap some up at Rite-Aid or Lowe's I'll pick up AAA/AA for the remotes at a dollar store, buy more of them and pay sometimes nearly half of what they'd cost for full retail Energizer.

Yes I know--you're supposed to be "green" and get the rechargeable kind, but I've tried that off/on since the 80s with mixed results. I also did the rechargers for the regular batteries when those came out and they would never make a charger that would turn itself off... so I'd forget about it after putting it in the charger and come back to a bursted battery and a mess.

i have a set of the energizer rechargeables, and they've been great.

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Batteries: What am I supposed to do with the old ones (I don't think I'm supposed to throw them away)?

Save-A-Lot: That place is weird.

Cousins: They have a lot of interesting ethnic food staples you can't find other places.

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Went to the Asian market on Spring Garden this weekend, probably still the best seafood counter around.
I mean, like where else can you get live frogs? Besides Petco I mean.

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codergrrl wrote:
Went to the Asian market on Spring Garden this weekend, probably still the best seafood counter around.
I mean, like where else can you get live frogs? Besides Petco I mean.

Do they sell rabbit there?

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Only frozen, not fresh.

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Cutter's picture

I'm a sucker for crappy dollar store canned goods. I like to compare them to leading national brands. As for batteries, just make sure they're alkaline and not expired. Zinc-carbon "Heavy Duty" batteries are low drain old technology, they last a quarter to a third as long as alkaline. A waste.

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th wrote:
Batteries: What am I supposed to do with the old ones (I don't think I'm supposed to throw them away)?

Save-A-Lot: That place is weird.

Cousins: They have a lot of interesting ethnic food staples you can't find other places.

E-Cycling.

I agree.

I need to get there.