Bandit Signs to be Legalized?

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stein's picture

Legitimately good idea to allow citizens to remove and submit bandit signs to the city for a small commission of the eventual fine. It will be a new revenue stream for the trashpickers and it will actually make the city look better.

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codergrrl's picture

Then you'd have the neer do wells making them just to turn them in.

"Je Suis Prest"

Kenzo's picture

I'm not sure that the City intends just ANYONE to collect the 50 cents for returning a bandit sign.

This is the bill amendment:

http://legislation.phila.gov/attachments/12566.pdf

If the City intends to allow ANYONE to collect the $0.50 per sign at any time with no restrictions or questions asked, then I would support it because a lot of junkies and homeless would be storm-trooping all over Philadelphia removing these things off of poles. But I doubt that's the intention.

Councilman Johnson wants the sign law repealed. The bill here looks like only the person taking out the $1/sign permit can collect the $0.50/sign deposit. Given that the city does ZERO enforcement right now and the fine is $75... honestly, what enforcement will there be on this law?

Why pay the $1 at all when I know the City will do nothing?

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TLP's picture

Why would they have L&I run the Bandit Sign Application program? Street lights and poles are part of the right-of-way, which means Streets should be in charge. I suppose L&I is better equipped to handle the processing of applications, but this confuses the boundary between Streets and L&I. "Inside the property line" versus "outside the property line" is a pretty simple distinction we should maintain.

You're right though that no person who is already breaking the law would suddenly follow this one.

TLP's picture

Wait, a question. Right now, I believe that the code allows for "temporary" signs, provided they are removed after so many days. Yard sale signs, event signs, etc.

Do I have that right, and will this change require those signs to pay $1 for the stamp?

Kenzo's picture

The code as it currently exists blocks all signage including lost dog/cat.

This change allows you to get those approved.

But really... you knock out some signs with magic marker or a laser printer: will you go to the trouble of, on a work day, going down to the City to pay the deposit? I don't think so!

And if you put up signs without a stamp---what's the City gonna do? Nothing.

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Pure_Fishtown's picture

We just ripped down 8 of those signs around Hetzell's last evening.

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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

sdm's picture

Now this is a bandit sign I can support:

Neatly chiseled, well groomed, drop dead handsome face.