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Tue, 2012-01-31 10:57
Legitimately good idea to allow citizens to remove and submit bandit signs to the city for a small commission of the eventual fine. It will be a new revenue stream for the trashpickers and it will actually make the city look better.
I don’t have much sympathy for renters, for me, they are non citizens
Tue, 2012-01-31 11:09
Then you'd have the neer do wells making them just to turn them in.
"Je Suis Prest"
Tue, 2012-01-31 11:21
I'm not sure that the City intends just ANYONE to collect the 50 cents for returning a bandit sign.
This is the bill amendment:
If the City intends to allow ANYONE to collect the $0.50 per sign at any time with no restrictions or questions asked, then I would support it because a lot of junkies and homeless would be storm-trooping all over Philadelphia removing these things off of poles. But I doubt that's the intention.
Councilman Johnson wants the sign law repealed. The bill here looks like only the person taking out the $1/sign permit can collect the $0.50/sign deposit. Given that the city does ZERO enforcement right now and the fine is $75... honestly, what enforcement will there be on this law?
Why pay the $1 at all when I know the City will do nothing?
Tue, 2012-01-31 11:38
Why would they have L&I run the Bandit Sign Application program? Street lights and poles are part of the right-of-way, which means Streets should be in charge. I suppose L&I is better equipped to handle the processing of applications, but this confuses the boundary between Streets and L&I. "Inside the property line" versus "outside the property line" is a pretty simple distinction we should maintain.
You're right though that no person who is already breaking the law would suddenly follow this one.
Tue, 2012-01-31 11:40
Wait, a question. Right now, I believe that the code allows for "temporary" signs, provided they are removed after so many days. Yard sale signs, event signs, etc.
Do I have that right, and will this change require those signs to pay $1 for the stamp?
Tue, 2012-01-31 12:03
The code as it currently exists blocks all signage including lost dog/cat.
This change allows you to get those approved.
But really... you knock out some signs with magic marker or a laser printer: will you go to the trouble of, on a work day, going down to the City to pay the deposit? I don't think so!
And if you put up signs without a stamp---what's the City gonna do? Nothing.
Tue, 2012-01-31 12:10
We just ripped down 8 of those signs around Hetzell's last evening.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)
Sun, 2012-02-19 18:00
Now this is a bandit sign I can support:
"If you can't be a good example, you have an obligation to be a horrible warning."