The following is a rewrite of naybor2deli's "norris st deli" post. I hope this helps in the conversation. I have to confess that I struggled to understand what was originally written, so I have invested substantial time to clarify it. I hope I didn't distort the original writer's intended message. I've given the best understanding I have. The original thread is here: http://fishtown.us/content/forum/norris-st-deli-0
Sometimes I'm amazed how people give their opinions on something, but truly have no clue what they are taking about. These are, after all, merely your opinions. They are in no way backed up by any facts. I live right next to that deli, and I know a lot of people who hang there (briefly) and who come in and out of that store.
If you want to talk about drug dealers and selling drugs, you should focus your attention on Fishtown Market. Look at which and what kind of kids hang out on that corner, and hung out at Emo's when they were in business. (I am in no way insinuating Fishtown Market or Emo's was involved in selling drugs.)
Answer this with facts: When was anyone ever locked up on the corner of Norris & Almond for selling drugs? Remember, answer with facts, not your "honest gossip opinion"! The answer is, as far as i can remember, that nobody has been arrested there for selling drugs in the last 5 years. Not one person. I know this because I have lived here most of my life.
So, dasfish is basically stereotyping people. Dasfish, do you know these people? Did you ever speak to these people you're referring to in your comment? Basically, what you're saying is that because these people (who you refer to as smackheads) are sometimes on the corner when you drive by, they are affiliated with the store. In what manner?
Actually, I'm not sure what you're saying exactly - other than because people look a certain way and hang at a certain place, they somehow define that place and bring everything around them down. That's absurd. Your comment simply displays your own paranoia. Trust me on this.
Instead of belittling these people, you should try going up them and saying, "Hi." You might be surprised at their response. They just might say, "Hi, how are you doing?" in response. They're human. Go figure.
Some of them might have had, or currently have, problems with addiction. Before you clowns say I've proven your point that this place is bad because there are addicts on the corner, let me say this: "Newsflash! There are more addicts than you can imagine." I'm sure you people think you don't know any addicts and think you don't surround yourself with addicts. However, you're fooling yourself if you live in Fishtown and believe this.
As for all you other clowns on here talking smack about the corner, let me just inform you of this: I know the owner who works very hard to run that place, and I know all the employees too. Some of the most respectful, hard-working kids around work in there, along with some older ladies. The girls that work in there go to college (Immaculata and La Salle), and the younger kid is going to Penn State next fall. The store is one of the cleanest kept and well maintained stores in the neighborhood.
Since Kenzo likes using maps for crimes, ask him to show a crime report in the past 5 years showing drug arrests on the corner of Norris & Almond. Do you really think if that store wasn't there that those B/E's and T/V's wouldn't have taken place in the last 2 weeks? Do you think that because the store is there, it assisted in one way or another with those crimes? You're crazy for even suggesting that. If we say this is true, we can then take all businesses and somehow link them to the crimes that take place around them - or exclude them if they weren't there at the time of the crimes. The reality is that these crimes would have taken place no matter what business was there at the time.
Here's another fact about these crimes around Norris and Almond: They all took place in the overnight hours. (Didn't they?) Are you still going to say it's the store's fault regardless of whether it was open or closed? This is a legitimate business. There are no DEA agents raiding the store, and no stakeouts on the store or surveillance of the people standing on the corner. There is certainly no drug dealing in that store. As a matter of fact, there is none on that corner. If there is, where are all the arrests? There are none. There is only a bunch of people giving their absurd, useless opinions which can't be backed up with a single fact!
I just don't understand why people thrive on useless gossip and misinformation. What I read on here is no different from taking Fishtown as a whole, slamming the bad people that live within the boundaries of Fishtown, and then saying Fishtown is not a good place because drug addicts, thieves, rapist and murderers live in it. This totally disregards the good, honest, hard-working, 8-5 people who also live in Fishtown. For anyone who didn't understand that analysis, it's saying you can't define the whole by judging a part. You must judge the whole as a whole, with both the good and the bad.
You know, people, if you spent half your time talking about and taking part in something useful and meaningful, you might make a difference. Don't waste your time gossiping and talking about useless, factless topics.
Godwin was basically a Nazi.