Zoning Meeting 3.14.2017 (POSTPONED)

Tuesday, March 14, 2017 - 7:00pm

MEETING POSTPONED UNTIL THURSDAY MARCH 16th, SAME LOCATION AND TIME

436 E Girard Ave
Proposal for the manufacturing of cider, as well as sit down restaurant and cider bar

1323R E Montgomery Ave
Proposal for the creation of 6 dwelling units and 12 offstreet parking spaces.

This meeting will take place at the FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, 418 E Girard Ave. All residents and business owners in Fishtown are eligible to vote. Please bring proof of residence or business ownership in the form of a driver’s license or a photo id and a lease, utility bill, or recent piece of mail addressed to your home or business.

Comments

sakirkla's picture

Woo! Cider!

roman's picture

Rebranding has become an important marketing strategy tool. The "inheritance tax" has become the "death tax" and "global warming" has become "climate change." There are countless examples especially surrounding businesses: Philip Morris to Altria and high fructose corn syrup to fructose or corn sugar.

It now seems that "multi family units/structures" is a frequently used rebranding name for "apartments."

Thompson Skret's picture

Multifamily is a building designed for multiple families, not just apartments. Condos, apartments, duplexes, quadplexes, townhouses all qualify.

So no.. not re-branding, just terminology used by people in the real estate industry. When someone files for a permit or variance for projects that fall under this umbrella this is the category it'd be filed under. No conspiraces here

RAMiller's picture

Thompson Skret wrote:
Multifamily is a building designed for multiple families, not just apartments. Condos, apartments, duplexes, quadplexes, townhouses all qualify.

So no.. not re-branding, just terminology used by people in the real estate industry. When someone files for a permit or variance for projects that fall under this umbrella this is the category it'd be filed under. No conspiraces here

Agreed. It is also codified in the code.

Avocado's Number's picture

RAMiller wrote:
Agreed. It is also codified in the code.

So it's written that way in words?

RAMiller's picture

From the Philadelphia Zoning Code:

(2) Residential Use Category.
This category includes uses that provide living accommodations for one or more persons. The residential subcategories are:
(a) Household Living.
Residential occupancy of a building or any portion thereof by one or more families. When a household living use is rented, tenancy is arranged on a month-to-month or longer basis. Uses where tenancy may be arranged for a shorter period are not considered residential; they are considered a form of lodging. The following are household living specific use types:
(.1) Single-Family.
The use of a lot as a residence for one family.
(.2) Two-Family.
The use of a lot as a residence for two families with each family occupying a single dwelling unit.
(.3) Multi-Family.
The use of a lot as a residence for three or more families with each family occupying a single dwelling unit.

roman's picture

Appartamento in affitto a Fishtown.
I find the manner of push back very interesting. The word "apartment" comes from the Italian word appartamento, which literally means "a separated place."
The most common type of multifamily housing is an apartment building. Duplexes, quadruplexes, and townhomes also qualify as multifamily housing.
Duplexes, quadruplexes, and townhomes is another fine example of rebranding.
Oooo! The conspiracy continues.

kjoarchllc's picture

Hi. I'm the architect for the project. I want to clear up any confusion- our revised proposal does not contain multifamily or apartments. We are now proposing (6) single-family dwellings.

fnazoning's picture

Mother nature might not play nice with this meeting date. See the snow date above.

If a snow emergency is declared (very likely) on Tuesday the meeting will be postponed to Thursday night. We need to let the community chime in this week as the case of 1332R goes to the ZBA next week on the 22nd.

Those who cannot make the meeting can always email

and request a letter template and contacts to email it to for the ZBA. This will go directly to the final decision makers.

roman's picture

There's a story about this lot that goes back 30, 40, 50 or more years ago. This is site of "Our Lady of Roses." It was a small garden shrine surrounded by beautiful roses. Remnants of the shrine remain as does some thorn bearing bushes. It's a lovely area with many mature trees and a well kept field of grass. There is also a very old cast iron lamp post that may have been a gas light. Remember that a gas light post remain in operation on Hewson street into the 1960's by Miller Court. An old bollard post for boats oddly can be found on these grounds too.
A business operated back along there of which I can't recall. It was a time when the street and roadway was entered into at Belgrade and exited onto Thompson St. Philadelphia trash trucks were also known to park there. The main area for trash truck parking was on the grounds of what is now the Fishtown Recreation Center.
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