Internet jackpot cafe - update

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"The proprietors of the yet-unopened Jackpot Internet Cafe at 1802 Frankford Ave. have told New Kensington Community Development Corporation that the business will offer games of chance, but also many other computer-based services.

They have also promised to limit store hours, limit patrons to those 21-and-over, and remove frosted window film from the windows, said Henry Pyatt, NKCDC's Commercial Corridor Manager."

http://planphilly.com/news/notebook/jackpot-internet-cafe-will-offer-high-end-computers-and-software-well-sweepstakes-game

2014 york's picture

I doubt the place will stay in business very long. It could possibly have a chance if it were not for a casino a few blocks away.

Landj's picture

Oh bummer. We thought, and hoped! That it was a no go when we walked past it earlier. It looked like it was already vacated! We can just keep our fingers crossed that it quickly disappears.

sunnyday's picture

I thought Kenzo took care of this ? your slacking man.

Mark's picture

Ugh, put the frosted window film back.

sdm's picture

Are there any legitimate Internet cafes around here? I need to print some things and am out of ink at home.

So I said to him, "Look, buddy.Your car was upside down when we got here. And as for your grandma, she shouldn't have mouthed off like that"

meredith's picture

sdm wrote:
Are there any legitimate Internet cafes around here? I need to print some things and am out of ink at home.

that's called kinko's.

“Try to learn to let what is unfair teach you.” – David Foster Wallace

jbette01's picture

meredith wrote:
sdm wrote:
Are there any legitimate Internet cafes around here? I need to print some things and am out of ink at home.

that's called kinko's.

I actually miss Kinko's. The Fedexification of the brand is now complete with a service downgrade. Staples is deplorable. I go to the NL Mailbox Store when I need anything small. Go small business go!

stbenjamin's picture

jbette01 wrote:
meredith wrote:
sdm wrote:
Are there any legitimate Internet cafes around here? I need to print some things and am out of ink at home.

that's called kinko's.

I actually miss Kinko's. The Fedexification of the brand is now complete with a service downgrade. Staples is deplorable. I go to the NL Mailbox Store when I need anything small. Go small business go!

They are really nice at that store, and I would use them again, but the quality of something b/w I had printed and laminated was only ok.

meredith's picture

there's still a kinko's at 18th and spring garden, no?

“Try to learn to let what is unfair teach you.” – David Foster Wallace

bozoloper's picture

meredith wrote:
there's still a kinko's at 18th and spring garden, no?

it's the fed ex store, now.

"my pockets are empty, i've spent my last dime,
but i just got to hear that song one more time."

sdm's picture

meredith wrote:
there's still a kinko's at 18th and spring garden, no?

According to their website, the closest FedEx Kinko's that offers print services (as in having actual computers you can sit down at) is in Tom's River, NJ. It looks like you can print documents online and pick them up from pretty much any FedEx location, but the website for that is down.

So I said to him, "Look, buddy.Your car was upside down when we got here. And as for your grandma, she shouldn't have mouthed off like that"

bozoloper's picture

sdm wrote:
meredith wrote:
there's still a kinko's at 18th and spring garden, no?

According to their website, the closest FedEx Kinko's that offers print services (as in having actual computers you can sit down at) is in Tom's River, NJ. It looks like you can print documents online and pick them up from pretty much any FedEx location, but the website for that is down.

if you want to come downtown i'll print it for you right now.

"my pockets are empty, i've spent my last dime,
but i just got to hear that song one more time."

sdm's picture

jbette01 wrote:
meredith wrote:
sdm wrote:
Are there any legitimate Internet cafes around here? I need to print some things and am out of ink at home.

that's called kinko's.

I actually miss Kinko's. The Fedexification of the brand is now complete with a service downgrade. Staples is deplorable. I go to the NL Mailbox Store when I need anything small. Go small business go!

I didn't know they offered print services there. That's where I was going to go to ship this stuff once printed, so if I can do both in one place that's great.

So I said to him, "Look, buddy.Your car was upside down when we got here. And as for your grandma, she shouldn't have mouthed off like that"

codergrrl's picture

Isn't that why we have jobs, to print ourselves stuff at the office?

"Je Suis Prest"

sdm's picture

codergrrl wrote:
Isn't that why we have jobs, to print ourselves stuff at the office?

I'm out of ink.

So I said to him, "Look, buddy.Your car was upside down when we got here. And as for your grandma, she shouldn't have mouthed off like that"

codergrrl's picture

You work from home? Why no ink at work? Not a good sign.

"Je Suis Prest"

sdm's picture

codergrrl wrote:
You work from home? Why no ink at work? Not a good sign.

Yes I work from home. And the reason I have no ink is because at the moment I'm fighting an uphill battle to get work to let me expense it since they're the only ones who ever require me to print anything.

So I said to him, "Look, buddy.Your car was upside down when we got here. And as for your grandma, she shouldn't have mouthed off like that"

jbette01's picture

sdm wrote:
jbette01 wrote:
meredith wrote:
sdm wrote:
Are there any legitimate Internet cafes around here? I need to print some things and am out of ink at home.

that's called kinko's.

I actually miss Kinko's. The Fedexification of the brand is now complete with a service downgrade. Staples is deplorable. I go to the NL Mailbox Store when I need anything small. Go small business go!

I didn't know they offered print services there. That's where I was going to go to ship this stuff once printed, so if I can do both in one place that's great.

They only have one computer station, but it is not in use 90% of the time I go in there. You may, however, have to talk to a human being at some point while you are in there. Not sure if that will work for you.

http://nlmailboxstore.com/copy.shtml

Landj's picture

We have a platinum card at holiday inns (my fiancé travels for work, plus I won a lot of points from a dr oz contest) so whenever we are away from from, we just pop in to one. We thought a plan to say, "do you mind if we use your business center? We stay with you quite frequently and have a platinum card..." we have never been stop once.

Sure, we don't do this everyday. We usually print from home.

But if we are away from home, it's our go to spot. Just ask for the business office at a hotel. If you need a key, just wait patiently or ask help for that too.

Ftownzzz's picture

I was shocked at how well of a print job I got at from Staples on Columbus Blvd last year.

sdm's picture

jbette01 wrote:
sdm wrote:
jbette01 wrote:
meredith wrote:
sdm wrote:
Are there any legitimate Internet cafes around here? I need to print some things and am out of ink at home.

that's called kinko's.

I actually miss Kinko's. The Fedexification of the brand is now complete with a service downgrade. Staples is deplorable. I go to the NL Mailbox Store when I need anything small. Go small business go!

I didn't know they offered print services there. That's where I was going to go to ship this stuff once printed, so if I can do both in one place that's great.

They only have one computer station, but it is not in use 90% of the time I go in there. You may, however, have to talk to a human being at some point while you are in there. Not sure if that will work for you.

http://nlmailboxstore.com/copy.shtml

I'll manage, thanks.

So I said to him, "Look, buddy.Your car was upside down when we got here. And as for your grandma, she shouldn't have mouthed off like that"

Iceman's picture

Okay, there has to be something that we can do about this, right? Any experts out there want to share strategies? Could we target the person who leased the property? Is their a zoning issue? And how did these folks not need to present before the FNA?

Leo's picture

sdm wrote:
codergrrl wrote:
Isn't that why we have jobs, to print ourselves stuff at the office?

I'm out of ink.

1) Why do you have an inkjet instead of a laser printer?
2) How big is this job? If it's not too big come my my office.

"Beware the fury of a patient man". - John Dryden

Leo M. Mulvihill, Jr.
Fishtown Lawyers
2424 E. York Street • Suite 111
Philadelphia, PA 19125
p.215.385.5291

Newcomer's picture

sdm wrote:
jbette01 wrote:

They only have one computer station, but it is not in use 90% of the time I go in there. You may, however, have to talk to a human being at some point while you are in there. Not sure if that will work for you.

http://nlmailboxstore.com/copy.shtml

I'll manage, thanks.

Lol.

If you think grandma from del co is riding her fixie or the el to the hall n oats show you're nuts.

codergrrl's picture

I know I'm dense, but I can't see how this works. $1.00 for 8 minutes of internet use? Is that a bargain?
I just can't wrap my head around what this place is actually going to do. There's no real gambling there, right? Just computers? I dunno...I missing something. Why would anyone want to go there?

"Je Suis Prest"

bozoloper's picture

codergrrl wrote:
I know I'm dense, but I can't see how this works. $1.00 for 8 minutes of internet use? Is that a bargain?
I just can't wrap my head around what this place is actually going to do. There's no real gambling there, right? Just computers? I dunno...I missing something. Why would anyone want to go there?

i think the premise is that there is some kind of gambling based on a (not so) legal loophole.

"my pockets are empty, i've spent my last dime,
but i just got to hear that song one more time."

stbenjamin's picture

So every coffee shop and restaurant along Frankford needs a variance but this is cool? I get that they found a state gaming loophole but what about the city?

newfish's picture

Can you please post the personal information of the building owner online again? As we were lied to about the plans, I think a reversal of course is appropriate.

sunnyday's picture

Kenzo did you talk to the owner ? I thought Barry or whatever your friends name is talked to his wife to straighten this out.

floppysoles's picture

Another place for the lowlife to hang out. Guard your pocketbook granny!

Here I sit broken hearted, paid a quarter and only farted.

codergrrl's picture

Don't laugh, I think I need those.

"Je Suis Prest"

codergrrl's picture

Thats a nice way of putting it.
Usually its called not knowing how to mind our own business.

"Je Suis Prest"

c0llins's picture

Get a laser printer. I bought a decent one for under 200 dollars.....best purchase ever. The toner lasts forever and you save a boatload not having to by those stupid little ink cartridges every 2-3 months.

Iceman's picture

Has anyone gone yet? I'd love a full report from someone!

jbette01's picture

This Plan Philly article is a good piece of reporting. I'd recommend you check it out to understand the legalities of 'Jackpot' http://planphilly.com/owner-fishtowns-internet-jackpot-cafe-says-its-no-gambling-house

Lauraska's picture

a) Boo Hoo for the owner that he had to spend 15 hours scraping off his crappy and ugly frosted window decals

b) He used to have a mortgage mod business and now he has this? Talk about making a career out of making money from people's misfortunes.

c) Just because the law allows it, it doesn't mean we have to be ok with it. Casinos offer other "services" like restaurants, shows, and hotel rooms. It doesn't make them any less predatory.

I was on the fence about Sugar House because of the location - I didn't think it was close enough to any dense residential areas that it would have a huge negative impact. But this place is smack dab in the middle of where people live. It's on a main block down which a bus passes that, quite frankly, often carries people who are struggling with addiction. It is owned by a man who seems to get off on taking advantage of other people's problems. The entire thing does not sit well at all with me. Not well at all.

Can you see my rolling eyes cresting over York Street as you read this?

JedicusMaximus's picture

Plan Philly wrote:
Deritis is starting the business because his last venture, at the same location, did not work out.

I am more than a little skeptical of this statement because Jackpot is the only business to have occupied that new building. Unless he was running his mortgage modification business from the vacant lot that was there before.

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bozoloper's picture

JedicusMaximus wrote:
Plan Philly wrote:
Deritis is starting the business because his last venture, at the same location, did not work out.

I am more than a little skeptical of this statement because Jackpot is the only business to have occupied that new building. Unless he was running his mortgage modification business from the vacant lot that was there before.

i was wondering about that, too.

"my pockets are empty, i've spent my last dime,
but i just got to hear that song one more time."

george's picture

jbette01 wrote:
This Plan Philly article is a good piece of reporting. I'd recommend you check it out to understand the legalities of 'Jackpot' http://planphilly.com/owner-fishtowns-internet-jackpot-cafe-says-its-no-gambling-house

If I had any lingering doubts as to the "scuzz" factor with this business, those are cleared up now.

Pretty sad.

bozoloper's picture

george wrote:
jbette01 wrote:
This Plan Philly article is a good piece of reporting. I'd recommend you check it out to understand the legalities of 'Jackpot' http://planphilly.com/owner-fishtowns-internet-jackpot-cafe-says-its-no-gambling-house

If I had any lingering doubts as to the "scuzz" factor with this business, those are cleared up now.

Pretty sad.

if this one fails he's going to steal puppies for ransom.

"my pockets are empty, i've spent my last dime,
but i just got to hear that song one more time."

codergrrl's picture

I was just wondering how you can pump gas for years, accumulate enough money to start some kind of mortgage business, fail at that, and still have enough of a credit line to get all that equipment into the store. Either this guy is a genius at making money off of failing business', or they're playing with someone else's money. And really? You sign a two year lease for a business that is brand new? I've never run a business, but two years is quite a committment. I've never signed a lease for more than a year at a time, and that was just to live somewhere. And I wasn't even sure I would last the year.

"Je Suis Prest"

TLP's picture

I like that the explanation of the game was "just like Monopoly at McDonald's", which was the exlpanation in the BusinessWeek article about sweepstakes cafes. They must all coordinate!

JedicusMaximus's picture

I noticed this morning while walking the dogs that there is a 'for rent' sign up in front. Perhaps Jackpot has closed before it ever really opened?

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bozoloper's picture

JedicusMaximus wrote:
I noticed this morning while walking the dogs that there is a 'for rent' sign up in front. Perhaps Jackpot has closed before it ever really opened?

i saw that the other day. it might be for the apartment upstairs.

"my pockets are empty, i've spent my last dime,
but i just got to hear that song one more time."

JedicusMaximus's picture

bozoloper wrote:
JedicusMaximus wrote:
I noticed this morning while walking the dogs that there is a 'for rent' sign up in front. Perhaps Jackpot has closed before it ever really opened?

i saw that the other day. it might be for the apartment upstairs.

Good point, I hadn't thought about that.

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ExUnit4's picture

Hope thr rent isnt 8 dollars an hour too

MK's picture

JAYFAR posted this article from Businessweek over at Phillyspeaks; it is long but has interesting background on the internet/jackpot business model...
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/11_18/b4226076180073.htm